I think I have figured out the goats getting out. A couple of months ago, Ronnie took Hercules and Carlos out of the pen to eat down some of the leaves and tall grass around. He tied them up to keep them where we needed them to eat the leaves and grass. They seemed to enjoy it. Ronnie did this several times. It was a great idea. I think the goats decided they liked it a lot and now are just doing it on their own. It is really funny to me.